Geotagging Imagery and Video


IsWHERE is a log of my thoughts, reflections, and news/blog links on the emergence of image and video geospatial tagging. On May5th this year, I opened a second blog to deal with more detailed aspects of tools for FalconView and TalonView can be found at RouteScout. Trends I want to try and follow are the various disruptions resulting from spatial smart-phones, how many GPS devices are out there, smart-cameras, and other related news. And yes, I have a business interest in all of this. My company Red Hen has been pioneering this sort of geomedia for more than a decade.

So beyond a personal blog, I also provide a link to IsWHERE a shareware tool created by Red Hen Systems to readily place geoJPEG or geotagged imagery and soon GEM full motion media kept on your own computer(s) into Google Earth/Map from your File Manager media selection. Works great for geotagged images from Nikon, Ricoh, Sony, iPHONE, Android and all geo-smartphones that can create geotagged images. IsWhere - read about it

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Wednesday, February 18, 2009

3G - Success yet?

3G - the power of the Ethernet....
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Alan Moore

If we measure how high is the 3G penetration rate per capita, not the 3G migration per total subscrber base - then we get a very different view... Italy has already 48% 3G phones per capita. So there is a 3G phone for almost half of all Italians. Now 3G is clearly a success. Note this is higher as a penetration rate for Italy, than personal computer penetration, or fixed internet penetration (per capita, not per household).
So, I wanted to give our readers a look at how 3G is doing. Here are the world's leading countries, not by how many of their subscribers have upgraded to 3G, but rather, by national penetration rate of 3G per capita, ie per all human beings:

South Korea 67%
Japan 67%
Singapore 61%
Australia 53%
Italy 48%
Austria 47%
Sweden 43%
Taiwan 43%
Finland 42%
Portugal 41%
Israel 39%
Norway 38%
Spain 38%

Thats the baker's dozen leading countries. All around the world. 13 countries where there is a 3G phone subscription for over a third of the population and very smoothly up the curve up to two thirds of the population. Is there any doubt that 3G is happening? That 3G is a success? That 3G will happen everywhere? (for those looking for the USA, it is at 20% - remember this is per capita, and USA lags the Industrialized World still so much, that they have not even reached the 100% national mobile phone penetration rates yet. Germany is ahead at 23%, the UK is at 32%).

The above stats from several sources including the Netsize Guide 2009, the ITU 2008 and Tomi Ahonen Almanac 2009. But yes, its been a long time coming, but the world's biggest infrastrructure investment, - and the world's biggest economic gamble - have panned out. 3G is well on its way to being a major success. But of who will end up winners and losers?

It is no longer a technology game. Like I've said for years already, the winners in 3G will be determined by services and marketing. Some of the past giants have been very slow to grasp that... And for anyone who would like to read a 2 page summary of the major stats on this industry, remember I have my free Thought Piece on Mobile in 2009. I'll be happy to send it to you, if you send me an email to tomi (at) tomiahonen (dot) com.






Monday, February 02, 2009

3G and Smartphones - 2008 Year of the Smartphone

2008 - Year of the Smartphone



US 2008 proved to be a Year of Two Halves. In the first half, mobile handset shipments happily chugged along at ~14% YoY. In the second half, 3Q handset shipments slowed to 8% before crashing into the Red in 4Q with -10%.

The underlying root cause? “Sheer fear sapped the confidence of consumers, enterprises and corporate users across the board,” says Jake Saunders, Asia-Pacific Vice-President of ABI Research. “As a result, 2008 signed out the year with 1.21 billion handsets shipped for an annual growth of 5.4%. Just a year ago we had +16%”. Market Shares:


*Nokia 38.6%

*Samsung 16.2%

*LG 8.3%

*Sony Ericsson 8.0%

*Motorola 8.3%

*RIM 1.9%

*Kyocera 1.4%

*Apple iPhone 1.1%

*HTC 1.1%

*Sharp 1.0%

*Other 14.1%

2008 was very much a Year of Winners and Losers:

* The largest gainer in market-share was Samsung with an increase of +2.7% (2008: 16.2%). Samsung had a faultless four quarters, driven by handsets such as the Omnia and Ultra series.

* The next significant gainer was Nokia with +1.8% (38.6%). Most of those gains, however, were secured in the first half of the year. Market-share started to slide in the second half and 4Q in particular as emerging market growth stalled.

* LG secured a +1.5% increase for an 8.3% share, in particular gaining significant traction in the North American market.

* “While those three manufacturers dominate the global market, it probably would not come as a surprise to many that RIM (Blackberry) and Apple (iPhone) boldly moved up in the market-share stakes with growths of 0.9% and 0.8% respectively,” notes Kevin Burden, Practice Director for Mobile Devices. Despite the tough economic climate, these two players are likely to continue their march to the consumer centre-stage but it in a way that does not drop their handset ASPs to bargain basement levels. HTC was late entering the consumer smartphone market with the Android-based G1, but the vendor has significant contracts in place (such as T-Mobile) which should play to the its advantage in 2009.

* The vendor with the most significant loss in market-share was Motorola with –5.1% in 2008 (8.3%). This is an improvement on 2007 in which the firm suffered a –7.8% drop, but it underscores the urgency for Sanjay Jha and Motorola’s senior management to deliver robust selling products in 2009. It will be a tough year for Motorola but it needs to deliver handsets that draw back the once faithful Motorola purchaser before it is truly too late. The challenge is that purchasers in 2009 will be very, very picky.

* Sony-Ericsson also stumbled in the mid part of 2008 with a -0.7% contraction in market-share. The release of Experia 1X in 4Q and related smartphone products could help the vendor improve market share in 2009.

“Sharp revisions to country-by-country economic conditions in the space of just three months will likely mean that a YoY handset shipment contraction of between -5% and -10% is becoming a distinct possibility,” concludes Saunders. “What is certain is that handset vendors will be trying to convince everyone they should own a smartphone. Welcome to the Year of Smartphone”.

Sunday, January 25, 2009

240 Million Smartphone GPS Devices in 2009


A report released Wednesday from ABI Research said handsets with GPS will continue to grow thanks to attractive new smartphones and the spread of location-based services.


The new report, titled "GPS-Enabled Handsets," said GPS-enabled phones are expected to hit 240 million units in 2009, an increase of about 6.4% from 2008. Analysts, cell phone companies, and industry watchers expect the overall mobile phone market to decline 4% to 8%.

"As the quality of positioning technology in handsets improves and the cost of including it declines, GPS location technology will approach the status of a standard device feature," said senior analyst George Perros in a statement. "We are approaching the point where location awareness will be synonymous with smart devices, a point where personal navigation, social spatial knowledge, and location-specific contextual information will be assumed handset capabilities."

High-profile handsets like Apple's iPhone 3G, Google (NSDQ: GOOG)'s T-Mobile G1, Research In Motion (NSDQ: RIMM)'s BlackBerry Bold and Storm, Palm's Pre, and Nokia (NYSE: NOK)'s N Series all have GPS capabilities, and so will most of the popular smartphones moving forward. The report said the annual shipping rate of smartphones with GPS will increase by 19% through 2014.

The report also said one of the main drivers of growth will be applications and services that take advantage of a user's location, a market that is expected to balloon into a $13.3 billion business by 2013. ABI makes special mention of Google's Android

Wednesday, July 02, 2008

What is a SMARTPHONE?

I have tried and tried to better understand the GPS chip count but the " industry pundits " used as sources are not much more that soggy cow-chips .

I have even gone to the horses’ mouths to try to sort out not the finite count but the magnitudes of growth. Too sensitive - fortunes and futures are at stake!

And my absolute biggest gripe is the speculation as related to so called smart-phones, the Mother-of-all-GPS uses, evolution into PDNs (or is it really PDNs/PDAs into smart phones?) for which there seems to be a rather dynamic definition that so crumbles the statistical edges that nothing or very little can be determined… with the result of FUD.

Personally I see the one-handed smart-phones versus enlightened PDAs and PDNs (also know as "I want-2-b-a-phone too!" devices) as key to really understanding what may or may not be really happening…

My personal bet is where ever you have a good digital camera the chances of having a GPS location will soon be the norm - so just count the great cameras? Too easy.. just point me in the direction of great cameras - Nokia, Nikon, Cannon, Kodak, and Apple or Google?

Smart Phones Must Have's:

  • Provide voice communication via a carrier
  • Provide Internet connectivity via carrier and WiFI/WAN (I don’t need no stupid carrier!)
  • Can be programmed by third-parties
  • Organize internally around a directory tree structures for programs and data
  • Provide removable data storage/chips
  • Include the Bluetooth halo
  • Have a good camera – better than 3mp IMHO and VGA MPEG video
  • Have good GPS – CEP less than 30m

Now the statistical chaff starts when “form/size” is included. There are two types based on size – candy-bar origami and ham-sandwiches both now exhibiting an evolving form identified as finger-fud:

One-handed – small, fits in your pocket including origami designs (which reveal a hidden keyboard) but can be and best operated with one hand and thumb – billions sold

One Hand vs Origami

Two-handed – needs two hands to operate either with touch/micro-keyboards or finger/stylus.

ham-sandwiches (size factor) like most Palm, RIM, and Microsoft OSed devices – keyboards not hidden but sometimes can be virtual – tens of millions to be sold soon

Ham Sandwiches

Both forms are evolving features I identify as finger-fud – best example is iPHONE and like derivatives (Ham-sandwich with crusts trimmed?).

So if you or your group can help normalize all of this noise we, at least this MidNight Mapper, will all appreciate your skills and clarity of purpose. Heck you might even be called over to DC to alert our government that things are happening in the GPS domain.

Lastly, there are two phone-GPS pieces really missing IMHO –

  • really cool "integrated" usability (a review of third-party GPS utilities not just maps!), and
  • accuracy of the GPS since LBS and its certain 2-come ad-$$ can be as bad as phantom clicks if the revenue models think 100m CEP versus 3m CEP is the smarter choice to deliver and charge 4 an ad?

Tuesday, June 24, 2008

Open Symbian...

This is going to be talked and blogged about... The very quick story is that Nokia will buy out all of Symbian and turn that into the Symbian Foundation which will provide the Symbian OS to all interested players as Open Source. This targets both Microsoft and Research in Motion's closed mobile operating systems as well as emerging challenges from Google's Android Open OS just now delayed till sometime next year. The move to Symbian Open Source will also create lots of comparison to Apple's apparently closed code and business model.

Symbian to go Open Source

To compete with Google and LiMo on an equal footing, Symbian will also become an open-source based platform. The Symbian Foundation will make some parts of the operating system available as open-source code at launch. More code from the project will be made available over the next two years under the Eclipse Public License, according to a statement.

During the first quarter of 2008 Symbian had a smartphone market share of 57.1 percent, followed by Research in Motion and Microsoft, at 13.4 percent and 12.0 percent respectively. Linux was the fourth largest platform with a market share at 9.1 percent, according to Gartner.

Also announced on Tuesday was the formation of the Symbian Foundation, which will come into being during the first half of next year with members including Nokia, Sony Ericsson, Motorola, NTT DoCoMo, AT&T, LG Electronics, Samsung Electronics, STMicroelectronics, Texas Instruments, and Vodafone Group. All will get access to the Symbian operating system under a royalty-free license.

The deal will unite Symbian's OS and S60, UIQ (which is run as a separate company, but owned by Sony Ericsson and Motorola), and MOAP, the software platform for NTT DoCoMo's FOMA service, to create one open mobile software platform and a stronger competitor in the battle with other platforms.

Tuesday, November 13, 2007

iPhone Succes to Slow Smartphone Growth Rates?

Tecnology News - Nove 13, 2007

Slowing growth rates for smartphones already are apparent. In 2005, Windsor says, consumers bought some 50 million smartphones, more than double the number purchased in 2004. In 2006, unit sales doubled again to north of 100 million units. In 2007, he reckons sales will hit about 144 million -- still healthy growth, but nearly two-thirds off the preceding years' rates of growth. In 2008 and 2009, the rate of growth will slow even more, Windsor predicts.

David Carey, head of Portelligent, a consultancy that specializes in tearing down gadgets like wireless phones to estimate their materials costs, says the more likely cost driver in smartphones over time won't be graphics chips, but flash memory. "If you took all the memory out of an iPhone and compared its insides to a Nokia N95, you'd have roughly the same cost of components," he says "The component content that is most in demand is flash chips. If everyone starts chasing the iPhone, then the costs will go up, but that will be driven more by flash."

Indeed, smartphone makers already are boosting the amount of flash memory in their gadgets. Apple eliminated its 4-GB iPhone, to offer just the 8 GB version, and 8 GB versions of Nokia's N95 and N81 are expected this week. Within a year these same phones could be sporting 16 GB, Carey says.

Tuesday, April 24, 2007

Smartphone and PDN Statistics

11% of Americans have more than 10,000 digital photos

Fully 11% of respondents to a Tabblo survey indicated they have more than 10,000 digital photos. The largest group of survey respondents (27%) has between 1,001 and 5,000 digital photos. If this data is extrapolated to the general public, it translates into Americans having almost 500 bln digital photos. Additionally, when asked how they were going to photograph the holiday and New Year's parties they planned to attend, point and shoot cameras remain the preferred choice, with 55% of survey respondents indicating they planned to use them. Digital SLRs were a popular second choice, with 37% of respondents indicating they planned to use them to capture holiday memories. Despite the dramatic growth in the number of camera phones, only 3% of respondents indicated they planned to use them to take pictures at upcoming parties,

Global Shipments of Smart Phones

Global shipments of all smart mobile devices rose 30% YTY in Q4 2006 to hit 22 mln. 18 mln were smart phones, 2.5 mln wireless handhelds and 1.5 mln handhelds. Total smart mobile device shipments for 2006 were 77 mln, of which 64 mln were smart phones. Nokia remains market leader in Q4, accounting for 50% of all shipments. RIM returns to second place, with device shipments rising 54% YTY in the quarter. Sony Ericsson gets back into top five for the first time since early 2004. Combined shipments of smart phones and wireless handhelds ("converged devices") were up 42%. But handheld shipments fell 41% compared to Q4 2005.

1.5 mln portable navigation units shipped in the US in Q4 2006

1.5 mln portable navigation devices (PNDs) shipped in the US in the Q4 2006. Overall PND shipments for the year hit 2.9 mln units, up 269% on 2005. Garmin was market leader in 2006 with 50% share, ahead of Magellan and TomTom. The US represented 23% of the global market in the quarter, up from just 15% a year earlier.

630 mln devices shipped in 2006 supported MPEG


MPEG already has conquered the PC and consumer electronics worlds, with the video-compression technology integrated into 630 mln devices shipped in 2006 alone. However, the technology is just getting warmed up, as the rise of the MPEG-4 standard spurs its spread to mobile phones and expands its influence on the Internet, according to iSuppli Corp. The number of MPEG-4 (H.264/AVC/MPEG4) codecs in mobile handsets will rise to 509 mln units by 2010, expanding at CAGR of 206% from a mere 1.9 mln units in 2005. The total market for handset video codecs is set to grow to 1.9 bln units by 2010, rising at a 13.6% CAGR from 836.5 mln units in 2005.

A Million Nokia Handsets a Day!

A Million Nokia Handset a Day

Indeed, if analyst estimates are any indication, the numbers will speak for themselves. Sales should be up this year some 7% in the quarter to $13.9 billion. Nokia is expected to have sold 93.6 million handsets in the first three months, a 25% gain on a year earlier.

Translation: The company is selling a whopping one million handsets a day. The biggest buyers are consumers in India, China, and other emerging markets who purchased more than half of Nokia's mobile devices last quarter. While that's been largely driven by sales of no-nonsense phones, Nokia is also introducing more jazzed-up models designed to appeal to an emerging middle class with money to spend.

Monday, December 18, 2006

Google and NASA - geoTagging via GE just gets better

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/12-18-2006/0004493013&EDATE=

NASA and Google to Bring Space Exploration Down to Earth
MOFFETT FIELD, Calif., Dec. 18
/PRNewswire/ --

NASA Ames Research Center and Google have signed a Space Act Agreement that formally
establishes a relationship to work together on a variety of challenging technical problems ranging from large-scale data management and massively distributed computing, to human-computer interfaces.

As the first in a series of joint collaborations, Google and Ames will focus on making the most useful of NASA's information available on the Internet. Real-time weather visualization and forecasting, high-resolution 3- D maps of the moon and Mars, real-time tracking of the International Space Station and the space shuttle will be explored in the future.

"This agreement between NASA and Google will soon allow every American to experience a virtual flight over the surface of the moon or through the canyons of Mars," said NASA Administrator Michael Griffin at Headquarters in Washington. "This innovative combination of information technology and space science will make NASA's space exploration work accessible to
everyone," added Griffin. "Partnering with NASA made perfect sense for Google, as it has a wealth of technical expertise and data that will be of great use to Google as we look to tackle many computing issues on behalf of our users," said Eric Schmidt, chief executive officer of Google. "We're pleased to move forward to collaborate on a variety of technical challenges through the signing of the Space Act Agreement."

Recently, teams from NASA and Google met to discuss the many challenging computer science problems facing both organizations and possible joint collaborations that could help address them. NASA and Google intend to collaborate in a variety of areas, including incorporating agency data sets in Google Earth, focusing on user studies and cognitive modeling for human computer interaction, and science data search utilizing a variety of Google features and products.

"Our collaboration with Google will demonstrate that the private and public sectors can accomplish great things together," said S. Pete Worden, Ames center director. "I want NASA Ames to establish partnerships with the private sector that will encourage innovation, while advancing the Vision for Space Exploration and commercial interests," Worden added.
"NASA has collected and processed more information about our planet and universe than any other entity in the history of humanity," said Chris C. Kemp, director of strategic business development at Ames. "Even though this information was collected for the benefit of everyone, and much is in the public domain, the vast majority of this information is scattered and
difficult for non-experts to access and to understand. "We've worked hard over the past year to implement an agreement that enables NASA and Google to work closely together on a wide range of innovative collaborations," said Kemp. "We are bringing together some of the best research scientists and engineers to form teams to make more of NASA's vast information accessible."

NASA and Google also are finalizing details for additional collaborations that include joint research, products, facilities, education and missions. Google's innovative search technologies connect millions of people around the world with information every day. Google is headquartered close to Ames in Silicon Valley with offices through the Americas, Europe and
Asia.

For more information about Google, please visit:
http://www.google.com
For information about NASA and agency programs, please visit:
http://www.nasa.gov

Thursday, October 26, 2006

geoTagging eRRors an d Bias

I have been inspecting the results of the registering of my collections, aka catalogs, of geoEXIFed imagery placed into Google Earth by several pathways. To frame this story -

I have a tad over 11,000 geoEXIFed and other geo-tagged images collected during the last decade. My spatial image inventory has been collected with the various Red Hen Systems tools. Recently I have also been collecting from the WEB goe-spatial images shared via Flickr and Google Earth. I have also used Picasa.NET to move reospatial images around.

I also have spatial video, maybe 120 hours in aggregate - I have a couple of legacy tapes pending as my "one/first" Maxtor external 250GB external is pretty much full-up. With much procastination, blood, sweat, tears, and hours I have so far sucessfully rendered that stack of video down to 28 clips totalling 135 minutes of 30fps NSTC, PAL and MPEG-2 videos explaining maybe four or five stories or themes. Today, I am browsing that imagery via Picasa.NET and Adobe's Lightroom Beta. I have leared to be reasonably productive with Adobe Premier for the video. Red Hen imagery and video mapping products have contributed the spatial slice-and-dice environment as well as generation of ESRI personal geobase, HTML and Flash cartographic work-products. How many CODECs? Wouldn't bet it was less than a half-dozen? I want to find an easy way to do the same within Google Maps.

I was able to join in Picasa NET Beta some months ago and was excited when I found the "Geotag > View in Google Earth" Tool option. It didn't initially work (accept images) but offered the opportunity. Today the "View in Google Earth" Picasa.NET option does a reasonable job although in some places it is still a bit rough IMHO - like no obvious "Blogger" map in this Beta . While I can not fully endorse Picasa, the more I use it the better the results I get. The .NET version remains in Beta, you'll need to have a gmail account, and expect an update say every three to six weeks?

My 11,000 geotagged images come with all sorts of legacies, collection methods, GPS accuracies, and geoEXIFing method. These are a few of the sources that can contribute positional wobble and uncertainty to an image's absolute position. How much accuracy does a geo-photo require? It depends. And when combined, these errors and those found within Google Earth/Maps and the GIS sciences generally, sometimes disappoint expectations. I too have been disappointed and to channel frustration, I am trying to understand the various sources of pure bias, trend, and residual error as a worthy interest. For the GISer this is table-speak as we are longer toothed on issues of GPS and how to lie with maps. To better understand camera wobble - the photography domain I seek illumination. The next several notes following will try to explain what I have seen and what I think may be going on.

GPS WObble

In the "old" days, before WAAS and when SA=ON, GPS position was guaranteed to be 100 meters off at any time (2RMS) and as much as 300 meters off on the 3RMS+ extremes. My posting experience suggests that the GPS WObble for that era was more typically 20-40 meters.

More recently, GPS accuracy has improved from 100 to three meters, cost per device are under $150, and form is the size of a matchbook. My preferred GPS solution these days are SiRFstarIII chip-sets which delivers 20-channel, massively correlated and WAAS corrected NMEA strings over Bluetooth.

What sort of accuracy should we expect with current SiRFstar III Bluetooth GPS devices? There are many relative and absolute position qualities I could digress to but for now lets assume good WGS84 certainty at the street level. The GPS accuracy is a positional accuracy of a few meters. An operationally good GPS condition would indicate PDOP is low (<2),>6), each with matching RTCM differentials that are both tight in space and latency. These conditions when matched to smart GPS software calculating an over-determined solution, the SiRFstarIII chip-set should be delivering antenna location in WGS Lat/long six decimal precision to within three meters at 2RMS and under one meter CEP or half the time. Is this good enough? One meter gets you there when ten will not? Seems good for me but maybe a serious geo-cacher might drop in on us and set the story right? As for elevation error or noise, a rule-of-thumb is 2-3 times the X/Y 2RMS error.

In my spatial image collection, a good portion have PDOP as well as the presence or absence of the WAAS or other RTCM differentials. These are indices of GPS performance. For some elite catalogs with well populated EXIF headers there will be images with orientation, distance to POI, edition information, image adjustment, and other tags. In some cases, the image might have associated sensors and both their data records plus their meta data. Neither that fit well a standard EXIF structure. In this case, innovation has required a GPS "LOG" or companion files that includes both NMEA and $ proprietary strings.

Squinty Eyes and Picture WObble

As far as resolution of my geoEXIFed catalog, I have lots of VGA, 1.3 mega pixel, and five mega pixel JPEGs. I have five mega pixel hand-camera for years now and have almost gone SLR at home. As a point-and-shoot pointographer the sweet-spot 3.5 mp image seems the more likely adjustment via my next smartphone. I have used many versions of Nokia camera phones and have a Fuji five mega pixel FinePix must be four years old now. Its handled the abuse well although I have acquired some sort of fungus that is devouring something that supports the display. Pixels are dieing in a hyphael pattern. I am learning how to improve poor images. Picasa is does an Ok job but I prefer the feel, organization, and quality offered in Adobe's Lightroom Beta. I know how to fix some of the issues of digital camera error - white balance, lens jitter, lighting issues, and other cool stuff I too can move sliders and embellish "my" imagery.

Hard-knocks experience tells me its time to move beyond JPEG or even JPEG2000. I like what Microsoft is doing with SeaDragon, Windows Media Photo and Photosynth. These are products from their Media Lab's propeller heads and will soon appear with Microsoft's next-generation of OS.

I also have some other odd-sets received mostly from friends - all but a scant few via CD. I a very small but growing inventory of images received from the Internet via sharing. I really like immersive imagery and when well-done, I could digg 3D. So much so watch this space for more on 3D-immersion! I only print to paper a small number of images say 1:500. I am starting to get quite excited about the sharing of images as a digital proxy for paper printing.

I am certain I am finding location wobble that likely others have or are facing both knowing and not. This "wobble" should be considered a new source of lens jitter in digital imaging. Solution? Good technique and/or innovative technology can minimize this. Further each method to geoEXIF the image have both common sources of error and well as significant limitations.

I want an easy way to minimise duplication of my media. But I also want a reliable way to re-organize my work products to my camera phone and allow easy creation of CDs, DVDs, and external disk storage for my use and for my clients. I am finding it too easy in my processing to create duplicates. Worse is the related fear to delete something you know you don't need but are uncertain if you have consolidated all of the changes... and other subconscious Delete - are you certain? fears. And duplicates in Picasa are very confusing IMHO. The have a stub for dupes but I have yet to see a understandable result. So I will await the update?